The incidents of molestation during the New Year celebrations shocked everyone and are increasingly becoming a nightmare for women.
The shocking pictures of two young women being molested by a mob of 70 to 80 men at Mumbai’s posh Juhu area in the early hours of New Year’s Day ashamed whole India.
In a similar incident, local revelers molested a Swedish tourist’s 15-year-old daughter at Fort Kochi on Monday night. The father of the girl said that he would now have to think twice before bring his children to India.
Source: Hindustan Times, IBNLive
We speak so much about our values and we are techologically advancing… but what makes our men do such things? Are we losing respect for women? These kind of incidents makes the whole India ashamed of what we are up to .. What do you think should be done to the people involved in such incidents? Please discuss.
VERY VERY SHAME on this incident i feel sorry to that foreign girl as well as those 2 indian girls but our culture is not like that so girls u did u payit i wont feel sorry 2 both of u bcz i bet u both are drunk so u drunk u paid no sympathy sorry.
One cannot walk in a jungle and expect the wild animals to greet “Hi, How are you doing today”. The risk these ladies took is nothing less than walking in a jungle.
Even a small kid is aware how dangerous it is to walk on the streets in late nights wearing sexy revealing clothes.
Do you expect the streets to be filled with gentlemen at late nights?
I am Sorry, but I have to blame the girls and their stupid relatives.
Wow .. so you guys are defending what that mob did? Wearing a skirt or jeans is revealing everything for you .. stupid fckrs .. get a life ..
@ sky and @ knar , arei chut saalu , wht does tht mean to stay @ home when the sunsets and by defending the mob you fuckers you are saying you would do the same as the mob when sunsets,guys like you are double headed hypocrites, who try to do things like this and defend the culprits , go fuck yourselves you assholes
It depends on the Indian girls also, Why did they wear that type of clothes…? which makes men to become dogs
So girls this is a good leasson for you, be Indian in India wear the Indian clothes…saries..chudi dars etc…, & not thouse western dressess & behave like Real Indian girls. then men will respect you & our Culture.
I too blame the girls… India is known for its culture, we being abroad do not wear such kind of dresses… the more you ard tradition the more people respect you… look yourselves and then go out… shame on you girls and all others who are tying to become western inspite of being Indian…
Those who did this are sheer “Sex deprived bastards” !! Make these guys nude and walk them on Mumbai streets…..Alternatively, I completely support the other’s comments that girls these days are becoming more western and surprisingly the western people are adopting our culture ( which is no more prevalent in India !!)….Girls — It’s high time you realize that you have a divinity in you and try to protect that lest you might end up in these kind of situations —-which is going to become even worse !!!
It is very obvious what sort of crowd is on the streets at that hour and that too on New Years eve.
I don’t think there are enough police to make sure such things will not happen, then what were these girls thinking when they went out that day? They were asking for trouble. If these girls were covered in a burqa, would no one bother them? There is nothing wrong with the clothes they were wearing, its just the fact that they took their independence for granted. India is getting sophisticated, but it has still not reached the level where women can roam the streets any time of the day or night, without such incidents happening.
This could happen in any country, why only India? Are there no perverts in any other country?
Great Country … sex starved people is what you will find in India. characterless bastards is what you find IN INDIA.
dont these guys think they have mothers and sisters at their home….any one such incident can ruin the whole life of a girl. she may not be able to stand confident her whole of life.
these guys should be punished in public to humiliate them and give others a lesson..
Well for 1 yr every roadside loafer and every lower class people should be send abroad so that they can see what they have not scene in their life and then they should be send back to India and i hope they would not act like dog then.
India is not at all safe for Girls….No one can do anything…first remove poverty and then only you could think of removing this…until then it would not change and if it did ill donate 5m pounds to Indian Government.
we are proud of our culture till the day
but thy dont come into our group becos first of all being girls thy are at are wrong place at wrong time thats not our culture.and sec the way thy are dressed is also not our culture.and the way thy are bought up is also not our culture.dont blame indian culture.being a girl i say this that is the girls mistake.and mob thy are men and that too thy are drunk its not there mistake.if the girls were at home that same mob would not have grabed from there home rite???
plz dont blame india nad its culture.
These perverts must be dismembered and hanged in public
This is really disgusting and shameful.This very incident shows the plight of women in india.If these guys can hold on after drinking then its really shameful.it seems like after drinking they are not able to hold thier nerves on.Might be they will grab anyone who is infront of them might be thier mothers and sisters too.These bastards have to be punished.If women cant enjoy the freedom in india them its really shamefull.Enjoyment is meant for everyone and what is wrong is not their dressing ms rajani but in the minds of those bastards who have committed such a henious act.shame shame on those guys.shame on the entire system
hello sardarje i think u are still a bachlor so u want indian gals to be dressed such a way.ofcourse even gals should have freedom i agree but too much of freedom will end up this way rite…
finally what happens is thy give a great title to india saying its cultureless or shameless ….
First of all, you shouldn’t have titled it India’s shame. Every country says things about their value and culture and tradition, but no country is perfect: not USA or Canada or India or Japan or China or Russia, or any other country. Each country is like a basket full of apples. There’s always atleast one bad apple among thousands of good apples. The men who were included in this incident are just the bad apples, but there are a lot of men in India or anywhere else who love and respect women. Truthfully, it would be a shame and disrepectful to all the good men if you talk about all men instead of just about the men included in the incident. Evn though I am a girl, I honestly believe that most men turned from good to bad because of women. For one thing, look at how some women dress: little shirts, teeny skirts, and whatelse. They might think that it’s fashion, and maybe it is, but they shouldn’t dress like that when they go to public places. Where those kind of clothes when you are going to a friend’s party maybe. As women think it’s fashion, it could be that men think it’s soemthing else. Maybe men are tempted from this, and maybe that’s why we’ve been hearing about ragging, rapes, these kinds of incidents, and more. As I’ve said for men, I’ll say the same thing for women. Not all women dress like that, many women are very traditional. Many women in India wear sarees, panjabis, choodidhars, patu sarees, patu langas, and more. If all women dress traditionally and if they all wear appropriate clothes, then I strongly and definetly believe that we will hear less about incidents, in which men disrespect women, and rapes, and anyother things. I won’t say that all men will change, because some certain types of men never change their ways. If women how they should be, then men will respect women much better.
Remember what our forefather once said…When ever the women in our country can walk on hte roads on midnight without the help of men…Thats the moment India acheives its true freedom…
Welll obviously India still doen’t have any freedom…Then again…just because some 100 basterds did the wrong thing doesn’t mean the rest of the population is like them…The govt of India must punish these basterds to other people who are like these basterds might learn something from the punishment.
the women were also a bit stupid to walk like that on new years eve, the day wen most peole get drunk in India. besides if they were dressed more in Indian style…the men might have left them alone…we can never be sure of that…
Some of the coments above are outrageous. It’s not the problem with India, it’s the problem with men and women and most women are the cause of it. I say that those girls may not have dressed too exposingly, but they definetly should not be out on the streets at night without protection, so those girls got what they deserved. I only mean this if the girls were not in some knid of emergency to go some where. It’s very bad to accuse the Indian Government, they can’t do anythign about how women dress, as I’ve already explained in the above comment also by Anonymous. I say this mainly to the person entitled “ts”: SHUT UP. What do you know about India? Don’t blame millions of people from something that only about 80 people did. Those 80 people are not even 1% of India’s population. YOU WILL DEFENETLY FIND THESE SAME THINGS HAPPENING ANYWHERE YOU TRAVEL IN THIS PLANET. It’s not the fault of the men or of the country’s government, but the fault of some women, and the some designers who design the exposing kind of clothes. THOSE CLOTHES ARE NOT FASHION BUT ONLY B.S. When women dress traditionally, appropriately, and yet prettily, men WILL NOT be such dogs. This is for the “Andy” person: SHUT UP TOO. India IS safe, but only for women who are how they should be. Not for the kind of women who wear exposing clothes. Being a girl, I still mean all these things, because not every women is exposing. Some are very traditional, and appropriate, and yet very pretty. Stopping these incidents are all in the hands of WOMEN. If women are how they should be, then so will men, the country’s government, the country, and the public’s opinion on the country.
THIS IS FOR WOMEN EVERYWHERE IN THIS WORLD: PLEASE TRY TO CHANGE, MAYBE NOT FOR YOUR SAKE, BUT ATLEAST FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THE GOOD WOMEN IN THE WORLD. PLEASE. IF YOU CANNOT CHANGE, THEN IT WOULD HELP IF YOU **** YOURSELF (SPEAKING THEORITICALLY…DUH).
P.S: DON’T TALK BADLY ABOUT INDIA, BECAUSE THAT’S NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY WITH THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. EVERY COUNTRY HAS THESE PROBLEMS.
HI
Hi people of the world, or atleast the vistiors of this discussion board. The fault of this incident was 70% the girls. I only blame the boys 30% as their fault.
INDIA IS THE COOLEST COUNTRY IN THE GALAXY. I don’t care what anyone else thinks.
What does this got to do with my being bachelor ms rajani .its the question of self respect.the women very well deserve it.u go to a fashion show and u see women in biknis so ur going to do the same thing over there.its your character which reflects .those are characterless guys in a group or 20 or 40 trying to seduce those women in such a way shameful.it is to be condemed by each and everyone irrespective of gender.these guys are real bastards.
this isnt smthing which happens in the eastern countries only … if u walk in eu with skirts (and drunk) late nights u dont wanna know what can happen 2 u so its not abt being indian in india and wearing salwar etc … but if u wanna wear revealing clothes u should b prepared for the possible outcms as well … and i dont believe those girls wear acting shy there
This incident is just a tip of the iceberg. You walk in crowded streets in India and someone is reaching out to touch you or brush by you.
I love my country but there are things which are grossly wrong there.
More shocking is the response towards that incidents than the incident itself.
You want to know what is wrong with India?
Read the responses - women are blamed automatically as if they have no right to be in a place where men are there. Why? Are you guys animals and after certain hour or in certain places cannot control your hands and your instrument?
ok blame the women that they were drunk and shouldn’t be there but what about streets or markets or theatres where it is difficult for a women to walk without keeping watch on people passing by. This is the reason you need brother or father or husband to protect women in India because those brothers or fathers or husbands know how dastardly creatures are they with other women.
I remember of Saudi Arabia after reading the responses. The women who was raped there was convicted because she came out alone and gave those men a chance to rape her.
Way to Go India!!! In no time we would be embracing that law.
This is the country where women were intellectuals, warriors, scientists and political powers not in recent past but thousands of years ago. We have done an excellent job moving backwards.
Women please note - Stay in your house . Don’t go anyplace where there is a party or group of men or day or night or alone or grocery or school or college or for your job. You don’t want to be called guilty aftre molested or raped right. Then sit in one place and wait for your prince charming to come rescue you who would be waiting to elbow another woman who dared to come to place where group pf men hang out.
What is more shameful is these responses more than the actual incident.
Way to go India!!!
How many people would encourage their sisters to party till late nights, walk on streets in late nights wearing skimpy clothes? Atleast I wouldn’t.
Thank you Vibha, I couldnt have said it better myself. The comments made here were as painfull to read as the incident itself.
hey common everyone is behind dress of those girls
whts wrong in wearing a western dress
so the girls who r covered fully r not facing such things
every women in india might have faced such situvation where she felt sorry abt being a girl
really vibha…you said it all right. these guys will never change…ultimately all the blame goes to women …whatever it may be….Sick thoughts guys.. someone said he blames 70 % on women nd 30 % on men in this particular case..how insane. its really pathetic that even now attitude of indian men is the same.i dont expect any change in them ever.
the way these guys are defending such pathetic incident is even worse than the actual incident.
nbkgnb
oh really .is culture only for girls.what does culture teach for men ,to behave like dogs.leave about dress .waht happen to humanity.
WOW!!!
After reading the comments…. I feel that the attitude of many people is wrong and prejudiced.
The discussion of what the girls wore shouldn’t even have happened. Are all guys dressing as per Indian culture and tradition?
If these guys molested someone, they are entirely to blame. 100%. A wrong deed is a wrong deed. They weren’t men enough to hold it and they weren’t human enough to not respect those women. If they want sex, they could’ve gone to some prostitute…atleast someone would’ve earned money!
To see that so many people are actually blaming those women, shows how cheap and irreverent people’s thinking has become.
Those men should be dismembered and left to rot on the roads!
Way to go Vibha .. You just did What I would like to do .. I cant believe some of the responses. Seriously keep your sisters inside and don’t let them go out ..
Hey…..ITs just a fight between Drunk POOR people and a Drunk hot Babe.
How come India or culture come in between.It can happen the same IN USA .u should be in a respectable position to get respect.
do u expect to put on a bikni and people to say hi ????
well said shaan!
i just pray that these men shouldn’t get tempted when they c there sisters in revealing dresses.no clue .may be then also they will blame there sisters dress
Vibha you pen down the truth. Bharath Matha ki Jai and My land land is a women too and I am proud of being a women born in such a wonderful land…
For Mr Anonymous and to other guys who think that girls are at 70% fault than those jungly bastards…
Its really not the dress that the girls were wearing nor the time.. if you think so can you please comment back on this incident which happened to me personally…
Me and my friend after the college went to buy some text books and got stuck in the traffic and around 9:30pm we got down the bus and its like 5 mins from the bus stop to my home… we were on the way and a sex povert saw us and diverted his route and came to us and he grabed my friends hand… she was screaming I didnt know what to do.. I looked for help .. and with all the courage and strength I gave him a big blow with the books bag that we just bought and he fell down and we ran away… We both were dressed properly in Indian dress and time was around 10pm…Fortunately there was only one if there were more than one I wouldnt think I would have in a stituation to pen this for you guys.. So guys what you think abt this u think its the fault of the girls … forget abt taht incident… think abt what happened to us.. we were 19yrs old that time… Shame on you and on your filthy comments…
yeah .i can add a situation of mine .i was walking in a fully covered full hands chudi with chunni covering,in afternoon and a man came on a bicycle pressed my**** and ran away.i was so shocked .there is nothing like dress or timing .they r dogs
You put fault percentages, whatever bull…. you can.
A human being has been blessed with the power of thinking.
What ever the other person does, if you cant differentiate between right and wrong, its only because you were born or brought up wrong.
Think that your near and dear family ones did a mistake and had to pay such a price. If you can still justify things, go on.
This is something I watched in a movie………
One who can ask for forgiveness in a human and the one who can forgive him is a much superior human.
Forget how girls fear going out in India, I fear when I go out with my mom or sister.
In my younger years I have teased, etc girls, which I thought were funny. Now today I realize everything.
All I can ask is for forgiveness!
BHADKAU AADMI KE HAATH TOOD JAO. SARI ZINDAGI USKEY HAATH MEIN FRACTURE AA JAO. CHINDI CHOOR BEWADEY KUTTEY. SHAARABI BHADKAU. THE GOVT ALWAYS BAN THE WINES AND DO CATCH THE WINE OR GUDAMBA BUT STILL THESE PEOPLE DRINK. LANAT ON THOSE DRUNKERS WHO WERE WILD. IN SOME FAMILIES THERE ARE ALL GIRLS NO BROTHERS THOSE GIRLS HAS TO GO ALONE WITH HER FRIEND YOU CANNOT BLAME THE GIRLS NOT TO COME OUT OF THE HOUSE. INDEPENDCE ALWAYS CELEBRATE BY INDIA BUT THERE IS NO INDEPENDENCE YET THERE. IN WESTERN COUNTRIES THE WOMENS GO FOR JOB ALONE AND DO TRAVELING JOBS ALONE.IN INDIA OR MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES WOMENS CANNOT GO WITHOUT ANY MEN THAT IS NOT INDEPENDENCE. IF A WOMEN HUSBAND IS SICK OR SHE HAS NO BROTHERS IN THIS COMDITION HOW CAN A WOMEN SIT AT HOME WAIT FOR SOME TO COME AND HELP HER. WOMENS HAS TO COME OUT FROM THEIR HOMES GO TO SCHOOL WITHOUT ANY FEAR ,GO TO WORK WITHOUT ANY FEAR . ID GIRLS OR WOMENS HAVE FEAR THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING. THIS MAKES POVERTY AND DEPENDING ON OTHERS. DO SELF WORK INSTEAD OF DEPENDING ON BROTHERS OR MENS.
SOME TIPS FOR DRUNKEN MENS AND THE GUYS WHO IS AGAINST GIRLS:
1) NEVER TEASE OR STARE THE GIRLS WHILE PASSING FROM THEM.
2) NEVER GO TO WOMENS COLLEGE AND STAND IN FRONT OF THEIR COLLEGE.
3) NEVER FLIRT WITH THE GIRL. OR WE WILL KICK YOUR ASS.
TIPS TO GIRLS:
KICK THE ASS OF THE MENS WHO TRY TO TOUCH YOU.
KICK THEIR ASS WHEN THEY WINK AT YOU.
JUST KICK THEIR ASS KEEP A BELT WITH YOU IN THE BAG FOR PROTECTION AND KEEP HOT CHILLI POWDER WITH U SO WHEN SOME DRUNKEN COME HEARBY PUT THE CHILLI POWDER INTO HIS EYES.
GOOD LUCK.
All those guys who are talking about women to behave properly to get respect. I have a small suggestion for you.
Follow your duppata clad sisters or wives or daughters or for that matter mother when they go shopping alone and no high profile thing - just grocery. You will get the answer.
The trauma of being deliberately touched everywhere is no different than of a rape. These kind of light reactions actually encourage these acts. There are men who veruy well understand this frustration - who are father to a daughter.
When some of you said I will never let my sister go out alone you actually corroborated my point. And, god forbid nothing happens to them but have you ever realized you cannot guard them 24 hours. That is why you need a decent society not only for women’s sake but for your own family. And, by undermining the role of those men you are making it unsafe for your own family.
And, I am sure all of you would have at least one woman in your family.
You wouldn’t be able to say “its just a fight between Drunk POOR people and a Drunk hot Babe” when its your family member humiliated.
I am not a regular writer on this post . I am an activist on these issues that is why couldn’t help but comment. I am working towards filing PIL against these so called regular issues which traumatise women not less than rape.
basterds son of a bitch. fucking ass hole. drunkers buffalo face cheap indian bastards. awara . haram ki paidawar. these drunkers should get marry with the female dogs and monkeys.
bloody bastards should be hanged to death for doing something like this and when comes to girls and theirr clothes …. they learnt a lesson not to go out on roads at that time with the type of clothes they had on…
That was a shocking incident.
I whole heartedly agree with Vibha, that you cannot guard someone for 24 hours, what we need is a stronger society.
These shameful incidents are the reason why we are still seen as a 3rd world country.
What we have is an outer cover of culture and tradition that hides the ‘cheap’ mentality of people in the country. Its not the girls fault and how can you say it is? Where in this article is it stated that she was wearing a mini-skirt or something revealing? Its something those 70 people should be hanged for.
I also blame the Movies bollywood offers now a days, those short and pesky clothes are the ones that make women wear such revealing clothes. Almost every movie now-a-days comes with a bed or rape scene, because thats what works, people just want it, no one cares about the dam story or the message the film has to offer..
The other Vultures pollute the web..I was searching for the movie ‘Hum Dil de Chuke Sanam’ on YouTube and I type in Aishwarya Rai, what comes up are hilariously lame videos titled ‘Aishwarya Rai HOT’; Can’t you leave her alone? she is beautiful but do you need to make such a fuss out of her body?
These Incidents are a disgrace to Mankind, people involved should be hanged or even better tortured to death.
Have A great day!
i should say those motherfuckers hasn’t seen good looking women in their life….In america what we do for these people is , send them to jail and have big, fat and very strong black guyz to fuck the hell out of them…since indians are pretty bad looking , one fuck and they ll die and india will be free of these cunt hunters
Strip those bastards in the public and teach a lesson for the rest. Some people are defending these atrocities…what the fuck??? just think of ur sisters and relatives before u comment.
This reminds me of a great telugu movie called “Pratighatana”.
Duryodhanas and dushyasanas are still in between us.. we should learn somethng from the history of our great country… else women will suffer like this..like droupathi..
its high time we stop researching the existience of rama or krishna… and follow whats written in gita/ramayana..
this is not merely question of men acting like this with women… its shows the way we respect our fellow citizen in the society..
men respecting men.. women respecting women… there are many instances where women kill women in the name of dowry… men abuse men..
your behaviour in society comes from what they teach you in home/school..
hit the root cause.. grow up your childeren as responsible indians.. these things would stop..
India is shameful to have sons like them…
Well said by Veturi-
“Marmasthanam kaadadi mee janmasthanam.. maanavatha ku mokshamichchu punyakshetram”
After seeing the post, I never expected that there will be a debate. I just thought that everyone will condemn such atrocities…..but reading these comments I was hell shocked, some guys are defending those bastards, which I feel is more than the sin. It is not the only one issue with girls wearing western outfits that are being attacked. women are being attacked irrespective of age. why are you some people not understanding the seriousness of the issue, before commenting or defending these perverts, please give a moment of thought or ask ur sisters, relatives and even ur mothers opinion. We need a better and safer society to live in. Respect our culture.
God bless INDIANS
Even if they were naked and drunk no body should have touched them. My apologies to both the ladies and their families. I wish i could kill all the people who supported the theory that they were inappropriately dressed shame on your culture and education. Why do uncivilized people get to determine what is appropriate and what is not…..
Not sure who can change or what can cause a society to change but i am pessimistic, if we were not civilized in 5000 years of evolution there is little hope that they will change any time soon (hopefully i am wrong).
-Anon
in kaliyug all human being looks for 4 things.. roti,kapada,mukkan and sex. form of four different types of desire.
men react to sex in different manner than women. everyone knows why scientifically it is so. i don’t want to waste my time explaining it. that’s why men are always instant to it. blaming each opposite sex makes no sense. but we all can try to lessen(not stopped completely) these incidents to happen. how? its totally depends on your intelligence. there are many bad incidents happens even if women are inside their own house. preachers, politician, policeman, professor, protector are becoming rapist. even indra was getting fascinated by beautiful women. whom you’re all going to blame?? every second there is a girl getting victimized somewhere. who is responsible? WE ALL. There is no end to it. in low/middle class society bad things happen outside and high class society happens backdoor. as long as we have desire there is no end to it. that’s the truth. if i have girls in my life (mother,sister,daughter,girlfriend,wife) can’t even guarantee that they are safe in this world forever, however gentle, nice, respectful we become to others.
all i can say in reality that our system should be changed greatly in all aspects. rewrite our policies, rewrite our laws, rewrite our freedom, rewrite our systems. definitely we will become best out of best cultured country.
my prayers going to all innocent, victimized soul.wish i had a magic eraser to erase their sorrow completely.
GOD BLESS INDIA, GOD BLESS WORLD
Well this msg is specialy for those who had bad opinions abt those girls,n bad comments,guys u r hipocrates,jst have a look at urself in the mirror,why do u keep on saying that these girls hv to be very traditional n not westernized,jst answer to me, u guys never heard of women being raped in sari?,or any village women who is being molested an raped and killed for nothing but jst for heck of it?.wat do u say abt this ,jst ask urself was she not covered…………a little girl travelling in the train was raped by these kind of bastrads,so rajni ji and rest others who blame those victims wat do u say abt it????jst dont support those bastards n stop balming the girls……even though they r not from india,but they r in india our land n they r our guest n they shld be treated well,those guys where sure illitrates but u r not ,so jst stop bluffing like that,n moreover its shamefull for indian men,”not every men”well if u guys r talkig abt trditional stuff,then u may be knowing abt this attithi devo bhava,first start implying it………..hope next time i dont hear any wrong thing abt rajani ….sorry to say it but u never know even if u r in sari or chudi u may be the next chosen onesituations r never thoght it jst happens suddenly.so jst stop posting ur nonsense crap.
Do u think when these women dressed up, they actually thought “hmmm… well…which dress will get me raped today..let me wear that…” No body dresses up to get molested or raped. Every girl wants to look good just like guys wanna look good. For people who spoke about culture, y is it the responsibility of women to carry on forward the ancient culture while men are left free…isnt it their duty. If they could dress up in Levis and Nikes instead of Dhotis which our ancestors wore, y should women still stick with traditional clothes worn since centuries. Doesnt that seem unfair?
I stay alone in the US and would not be afraid to go to pharmacy at 12 in the night when I have to. But, in my home country I cannot go out to a shop next door after 7pm. y? Why shud I fear my own people when I dont fear foreigners?
For those who blamed alcohol and said that these people are low class people, how do u know?
What about those guys in the city bus who touch and feel women. They are sane, educated, well-bred middle class men like many of you. What about colleges, supermarkets, malls where women have to watch out.
Did u ever think how humiliating it is when some stranger lays hands on ur body. U know how disgusting the feeling is? It will not go even after taking 100 showers. Many women cant even tell their parents for the fear that they will stop her education.
FYI: 75% of women who were raped in India wore traditional Indian clothes.
90% of the cases occured inside or around their homes, workplaces.
an 80 year old woman was raped recently in andhra pradesh by a 19 year old.
But, dont stop here. Do what we do the best. Blame it. Blame it on alcohol, lower class, women, their clothes, their desire to just look good or just have fun, government, police, education system…keep blaming it.
But dont dare to look inside yourself or listen to ur own voice. becoz thats all wat u r capable of doing. and u guys think urself to be knowledgeable enuf to comment on a serious issue as this. Haha …wat a joke. Every tom, dick and harry who doesnt even have the decency to think like a human being thought it was their divine duty to let us lesser humans know what we should and should not do. You dont listen to ur own parents, but women should lead their lives so not to provoke strangers or rather animals who cannot control their harmones. well…just so u forgot, women produce biological harmones too…(well, I ask is it a male thing..for example, y do u piss on the road side. Dont u have that much control. Women are also human..they dont do it and also u dont see it in any other country.)
But dont worry. relax, u dont have time for these trivial issues. Go watch a movie, a video, discuss how hot the heroine is, name girls walking on the streets, make dirty jokes, go to work, eat & sleep. And if u get angry on ur male friend..curse him with his mom or sisters name…infact thats how much we respect women in this country.
So RAJANI u belive that if u r at home u r very safe???jst dont forget there r sooooooo many rapes and mureders done at our own so called protective shield….stop pestering with ur comments,u r way behind of any thoughts abt the current feelings going on victims ……….well women being raped and killed by a cab driver,u wanna know abt that girl,well she was in banglore doing her job,she was in call center and was brutally killed after her office hours,well she was very neatly dressed in indian chudis and she was not those kind of girls who want to sit at home and wait for some body to feed her rest of her life…………..
well wat do u say abt that????here its the question of security for any kind of women or girl or child………….and not abt balming the culture or India.Here we r lacking education………..thinkover it again n again.
these guys definitely need to get a life they suck, i don’t have any words for them they are the biggest losers, fuck your self mo fo’s……… some insane guys wrote about our culture and how women should dress are you fucken out of your mind nigger your are one of those losers do you ware the same outfit what your grandfathers used to ware f you ….. i shouldn’t advise any one here but girls should be sensible when picking up a party just do some home work what sought of crowed you are getting in i know it doesn’t make sense… f you losers…….. i feel like making them imp’s fuckers
I wont put my fu****g hand into fire, get burnt and say it was not my fault.
I used to live in south chicago, a couple of blocks away from the place where I lived, there were lots of gangsters and criminals, I never went there, coz I knew it was not safe.
Currently, I live in Jersey city and I try to reach home as early as possible, thats because I try to be safe and I try to stay out of dangers.
2 women fully drunk partying at 1.30 in the midnight, what else do you expect? and each of us here knows that its not safe to go out in the night in a city like mumbai, and if you want freedom at midnight, these are the perks you get.
Almost 99 % of males in India, educated or uneducated are shameless animals behind a mask. Given an oppurtunity to satisfy his lust, an Indian man would not leave any stone unturned to take full advantage of it. Am sure if that mob of people had inidvidually encountered the girls, would’nt have dared to do anything. So, what makes them do it in a group. Not a single man actually thought of helping the girls. It just shows that everybody is just waiting to pounce upon an oppurtunity. This is the sad state of our country. Somebody wrote about western clothes. Haven’t guys seen their sisters wearing western clothes. Do they do this with them in their sisters at homes just coz they are wearing western clothes.
We talk about great India, IT,culture, heritage, economy, growing Rupee vs Dollar…bullshit. What we saw that night is the real India. And its not just lust.. Talk about corruption. People make nation. Shameless, Sex starved, unethical, corrput ppl cannot make a great nation. Its just an illusion
This just puts entire nation to shame.
Huh…I feel really bad to read the kind of comments being made here…I just cannot believe that the women are being blamed just for not dressing in the Indian way??
To those all who said so please ask your female members in the family the problems they face in day to day life…let it be in a public place, public transport etc…Ok everyone have been blaming the Indian Girls for being at the wrong place at the wrong time and also for not dressing properly!!! (cannot afford to mention that)..Then what would you guys say about the incident happened to the Swedish Girl??
I will not be suprised a few people saying that all the tourists visiting India should also dress the Indian way!!!!
And have you read about the recent incident where full term pregnant women was GANG RAPED, and let me mention this she was not drunk and pretty much dressed in the traditional saree nor she was coming back home attending a party ( I’m forced to mention all this after reading all the comments above ) such is the plight of the security the people have in India.
I personally feel the Govt. of India has to come out with stringent rules against people doing such heinous acts, so that a person should not even dream about such a thing called RAPE.
I am an Indian and I’m proud of my country, but incidents like these make me think where are we heading?People fear to bring incidents like these to the attention of the Police WHY? And so has happened in one of the case which is being discussed here. Its just because the lack of trust in them.
And many even mentioned that on a new years eve all of them are expected to be drunk and incidents like these are prone to happen, why did not anyone think that had there been enough police / security this would have never happened??
And for those who mentioned that incidents like these happen everywhere in the world,yes they would, do but not on a road where a mob of 80+ people molest publicly.
People its really easy to comment but think about all those who go through these, the mental turmoil and agony they go through…
This is for Vijay: First research what happened and then comment. Who said that they were drunk and partying at night and were wearing provocative clothes. They were 2 NRI women. The victim came with her husband, her brother and his wife. She was dressed in jeans and a shirt. They were crossing the road right in frnt of Mariott hotel where they were staying. They were perfectly sane and it was not 1:30.
First one guy grabbed ones behind, later another came and joined and were like dogs attacking food while their poor husbands were doing all they could to keep the mob away.
FIRST KNOW WAT U R SPEAKING ABOUT.
EVEN IF IT WAS 1:30 AND THEY WERE DRUNK THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BEHAVING LIKE ANIMALS. Listen to urself. U r worst than the people who actually committed the crime.
Huh…I feel really bad to read the kind of comments being made here…I just cannot believe that the women are being blamed just for not dressing in the Indian way??
To those all who said so please ask your female members in the family the problems they face in day to day life…let it be in a public place, public transport etc…Ok everyone have been blaming the Indian Girls for being at the wrong place at the wrong time and also for not dressing properly!!! (cannot afford to mention that)..Then what would you guys say about the incident happened to the Swedish Girl??
I will not be suprised a few people saying that all the tourists visiting India should also dress the Indian way!!!!
And have you read about the recent incident where full term pregnant women was GANG RAPED, and let me mention this she was not drunk and pretty much dressed in the traditional saree nor she was coming back home attending a party ( I’m forced to mention all this after reading all the comments above ) such is the plight of the security the people have in India.
I personally feel the Govt. of India has to come out with stringent rules against people doing such heinous acts, so that a person should not even dream about such a thing called RAPE.
I am an Indian and I’m proud of my country, but incidents like these make me think where are we heading?People fear to bring incidents like these to the attention of the Police WHY? And so has happened in one of the case which is being discussed here. Its just because the lack of trust in them.
And many even mentioned that on a new years eve all of them are expected to be drunk and incidents like these are prone to happen, why did not anyone think that had there been enough police / security this would have never happened??
And for those who mentioned that incidents like these happen everywhere in the world,yes they would, do but not on a road where a mob of 80 people molest publicly.
People its really easy to comment but think about all those who go through these, the mental turmoil and agony they go through…
So what’s the lesson now :- Go get drunk and have parties in midnight; stay away from traditional clothes; take drugs at the parties; roam on the city street’s in midnight; if some hooligan passes a comment on you, don’t ignore it, just give a provoking reply to him and make the issue bigger; finally when somebody tries to molest, make it an earth shaking news.
God save modesty!!!
@piyumahja_hijy
Thats what we are discussing here, even if the women dont drink, or go to parties or dress traditionally, they still get raped. This is a deeper issue of respecting women as fellow humans and not treated as objects.
And all of you who said they would watch over letting their sisters leave the house, do you ever watch your sons or brothers leave the house? Do you keep an eye over what they are doing? Would you consider it fine behaviour if your son raped a women cause she was dressed skimply so she must definitely be asking for it? What about yourself? Would you rape a women because she deserves it for walking out late at night?
Very shameful, i feel sorry for the girls and disgusted on the Indian men and there narrow mentality. Most of you have commented on the girls but did any of you all have put your selfs in there shoes. So you all think wearing Indian clothes like sarees, salwars and having Indian values no girl is touched and raped.
Those couples look like they come from decent families, if not they will not stay or party at Marriot.
Any girl how so ever they are dressed, touched against there wishes is an abuse.
You all cooly said because of the dress and being out late in the night, those girls deserve what they get. Then tell me one thing if girls are not spared then why are the guys spared. The guys also have to be abused because you all also equally follow the western culture, by wearing body hugging t’s and pants slipping down the waists. So what do you all think, they are inviting to be Fucked.
India is a great country, but sad to say i do not have any respect for the country and it people. People do not preach what they say.
If you search you guys will find some heart crying cases
which are never solved.
80% of rapes are done by rich, educated and high position people and the rest 20% girls who are raped are the lower class who land up in the redlight places.
I can give you guys 100s of cases happened in 2007.
I honestly felt like cutting there private parts and putting it in there hands.
This is to the person called ANYNOMOUS. What do I know of India. I know better than what you know or have seen the experiences. India is country where you have male doctors when taking viva voice during medical school examination will be asking questions to girl students and at the same time below the table sitting accross touching them with there feet and fondling them. BASTARDS. India is country of men , students, teachers, waiting for every opportunity to fondle with girls given every chance as if these girls have just been born as tools for them to play with.
India is a country of sex starved men , and will remain that way.
And last but not the least I am an INDIAN for your fucking information and not afaraid to state that INDIAN MEN suck
Hi,
India is great country and known for it’s ethical, moral, cultural, spiritual values. There were some bad guys in history too but the % does matters. So we need to build our youth making them have faith in all the above values. This is not problem with only youth…the value with society, perents, neighbours..We may not change everything in one day but keep our steps close together and walk the in a syncronized way towards good values. And need to build a confident, faith on our laws and obey them with respect and self responsibility.
Reg: This issue…who ever is responsibile should be punished in such a way there nobody else will commit these kind of things
Regards,
Raj
Guys……Guys…..Guys…. there are a whole lot of fuckers posting comments….. look at them…poor girls i feel sorry for them. Let me get one thing right….. they can enjoy the freedom too…you should be a psycopath bastard to blame the girls for this, all they did were enjoyin their new years eve…. Someone was saying about drinkin… whats the big issue about women drinking???? think first before you bastards write comments man…… Grow up guys!!!
piyumahja_hijy….. buddy what the hell are you talkin… Grow up! u sound really really gross….
You are talkin as if you were there at the scene… guys roam around all night, have parties and drink…is that not an issue..
Guys you are fortunate to be in india…
i wish all these people who are “supporting” the mob, be molested the same way… only then will they understand the girl’s feelings….
why are you blaming everything on girls? Its not the fault of girls,and coming to dressing it doesnt matter for those drunk guys.On the new years eve one pregnant lady raped by 15 heart less animals in andhra..whats her falut? she was in the traditional clothes ,and she was taking her husband to the hospital beacuse he broke his leg.whatevee u say its 100% fault of those guys.
Hi all,
I am surprised to read all the above ground breaking comments on the incident.
First of all I agree with the statement given by Anonymous on Jan 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm “First of all, you shouldn’t have titled it India’s shameâ€. I was speechless by seeing this title.
I also read that somebody suggested that these guys should be made walking naked on the roads and hung. In which direction is you’re thinking guys? Don’t you think the guys involved in this incident have a sister or mother? Or the girls involved don’t have any male relative? What is the difference it going to make if you have a sister or a mother or a brother or who ever Where does question on the culture of India come from? If you go back and read about culture of India none of it speaks about the character of the Indian citizens. Articles on Indian culture speak about history, epics, poems, music, art, sculpture, architecture etc. It is the responsibility of individual who has to develop certain characters by reading these articles. If you are an Indian it doesn’t mean you are cultured.
I agree if you blame the government and most apparently movies. It is the fault of the government to encourage such parties. It is the fault of the government not to provide with enough security on the streets. It is the fault of the government that it didn’t issue some regulations on how to behave in public on such days and warn people who violate it. Don’t the government new that such things might happen. It should have been prevented. This is irrelevant to talk about western or Indian culture. If the person who wrote this article initially on the incident happened is an Indian and believes in Indian culture he/she would have taken this all story in the different direction.
Choose right people to be safe and secured. It is the constitution which has to be redefined and rewritten not the individual behavior. You cannot control the minds of 100 thousand and corers of population with the present system
I request you all to leave this discussion on clothing, culture, male and female issues and speak/do something practical to totally eradicate such incidents in future. Nobody is going to make these people walk naked on the roads and hung them up as we do not know how many people in the mob have a political support and what would be the consequences.
WAKEUP INDIA CHANGE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM AND BECOME A PART OF HISTORY AGAIN
IT IS ALL IN OUR HANDS, IT’S NOT TOO LATE THAN NEVER
Regards
Sahira
I dont beleive those who are blaming everything on girls clothing.They are wearing jeans.Whats wrong with jeans?
I will tell you recents rapes happened in the last 15 days
1)1 wipro girl raped while coming home from office
2) 1 pregnant women raped by 15 drunk guys
3) a 5 year old child raped by a guy
tell me whats wrong with those girls? PLEASE PLEASE DONT SUPPORT THOSE GUYS WHO DID THESE HORRIBLE THINGS.
The incedent is an unfortunate incedent. Both parties are to be blamed.The criminals should be punished no matter if they are drunk or not.That doesnt justify their actions. I hope atleast girls will now understand the risk of going to such places.
regards,
shree.
piyumahja_hijy
So u think u shld be staying at home all the time.u r pathetic man,nobody wants to stay at home and jst die like that,every humanbeing has the right n freedom to enjoy,jst come out of ur cozy nest and see the real world,its us the humanbeings who r responsible for everything…..we create a new rule and in overnite we hv the rules done n broken in secs…….jeez give me a break. traditional clothes?????so an 80 year old women is raped by 19year old boy ,so wat do u say abt that,was that lady boosing ?partying?or was she wearing a mini skirt to get f*****,NO NO No No………….try to put ur comments in a sensible way.
This is for Krishna. I never mentioned about clothing in my post, I think you need a whole bunch of flowers. I am definitely condemning the act. The only thing I suggested was to be more careful, with such people around you.
If we are talking about Indian culture, then, New Year is not part of it. So, we have long forgotten Indian values and are moving towards a more globalized culture. And when we talk about Indian culture, both women and men from India are an integral part of it. If women call getting drunk, wearing revealing outfits and roaming on the roads at night liberation or equality or some other crap, then, thats not Indianesque and the men who molested the ladies are not adhering to Indian values either. And regarding the Sweedish girl, her father should know better. When you are not in your home country, you need to be that much more cautious. Its a simple rule of majority vs minority no matter which country you are in. There is no sympathy needed for these girls, that does not necessarily absolve the men who did what they did, but media picturising and highlighting this in an age when the Indian values are no longer in the fore is a big waste of time. There are a lot more important issues in India that can be addressed like poverty, corruption than some stupid issues arising out of drunken revelry.
right chakri I agree
I too agree with Chakri.
HA… what an interesting comments
Streets in India can turn into jungles once it is dark, There is absolutely no mistake of them turing into jungles and some men have every right to turn them into jungles
Some men change into wild animals in the dark and it is their right and culture to drink and turn into animals.
It is totally the mistake of the girls going out in the dark knowing that there are jungles and wild animals out in the dark.
some bloody fuckers do not have courage to turn into wild animals and so they have every right to support those animals narating their own version of the stories like western clothes, drunk women… as if they were at the scene and know everything
Can any one of you idiots gaurantee that this incident would not have happened if they were in Indian dress?????
Here in US everu women whether Indian, American, African wear only western dress to office… I can not imagine what you men think seing them, I guess you would surely gat an idea of… wow how nice it would be if US suddenly turns into night in India and I can fuck all these women…
These men supporting them with their comments are no better than those fuckers in the mob, they will never change…
Note for all Girls: It is ur duty to shut urself at home at nights irrespective of what ever the situation may be, beware of jungles and wild animals. Make a habbit of wearing a burka to keep urself safe.
Well said Chakri.
Should’t there be a moderator for such discussions to remove comments with really bad language?
I Dont agree with you chakri.
Molestation is the Biggest problems Our girls are facing from long time( I think this started when ladies started coming out of houses for studies or work).
90% of women in India are facing this probems every day in buses,trains,shopping centers,busstations,railway stations,may be U dont believe even in temples.Girls dont complain this every day because it is every girls common every day problem.Ofcourse even u complain about this no one will care.
Anyway I know there is no end to this discussion ,Iam just telling my opinion..
If you feel bad about this ,Iam sorry.
hay sonu even im talking about the current incedent… ok and in this current incedent gals would have beaved in there limits they would not have given such chance to those drunk guys to misbehave with the,i mean thy were there at wrong time,ofcourse dressing is secondary.
when we know what india is we should be carefull.we should be in our limits when we know so much of inda … as many said its not safe for girls to frick around at nights.and dressing? i m not saying to be in sarees all the time jeans is ok but short skirts and exposing just shows ur attitude of provoking guys …. so i say in such type of dressing u are giving chance to such guys to treat in bad manner.ofcouse as said above even if u are dressed very well such incedents happen in india in such cases u are not the one who should feel guilty.it was not 100% wrong of those guys or gals.mistake is on both sides.both the sides had limits but both the sides had crossed the limits….
We should know our culture well first and understand the other cultures too. These things are happening because of modern cutlure. Everyone should learn how to behave and respect other people. Now a days no one cares for these things every one wants to be fashionable and modern. I cant say everything, but there are many thing we must still learn.
its a shame tht such a thing happend again. I bel it hapnd last year too. I think theres nothing wrong in the women dressing. We claim our country is a democratic county. Y preach when things cannot be practived. The guys who were involved in that incident im sure they must be from the cream of the so called society were in they will let scot free even found guilty.Evn in sarees many of the women dress indecently. Y blame the girls for their dressing. Lets be more modern in dressing when we claim we r modern in everyway. I think the girls shouldnt hve been so drunk that they couldnt defend them selves. For all the men who wrote in this column bout blaming the girls dont your mothers, wives or sisters dress wearing low neck chudidhars, tops or even saree blouses. Move ahead think good . If you think in a good wavelength everything around you will look good or else everythig around you will look evil. MOVE AHEAD INDIA MOVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEE……….
Culture is not only for gals of india.. It is also for guys.. This is not the first incident which is happening. This came into limelight.. Many incidents are still in dark… Even this is happening for girls who are not westernised.. To stop this severe action has to be taken…. without creating a fear, this cant be erradicated.. A foreigner is talking about our country, ” that he will think before bringing his children to our country”" One of the country known for its value… AS discussed above, girls dont complain this, as it is happening everyday.. If all people want girls to stay inside the house and not to come out the house after dusk, then still there is a question of freedom to girls. What ever happens, westernisation comes into blame… It has to be condemned..
Only thing I could say is I really pity those girls if they were not drunk. The victims were not in short shirts in the photos and jeans and shirt are quite common in a city like Mumbai. I do not think jeans is so reveling.
Most of people here are advising that girls should change and move away from westernisation and stay at home in the night (which is good, because there is no other option to be safe). I do not think the people in the mob would have left them even if they were in Indian dress. But when will the minds of such men in the mob change? when will girls get complete freedom to go out with confidence that they can come back home safe,if the situation demands it? Sorry if I have hurted anyone…
Its was very suprising to read comments passed by few people supporting the mobs. Just one week back I had been to Las Vegas, overcrowded with people as usual. Roads filled with crazy people walking with big jars of beers, Mexican pimps selling pictures of pros with their contact nos. on it and females walking in skimpiest outfits which could make any man go crazy. But to my surprise I did not see any girl being mistreated or molested instead everyone were walking with so much of ease enjoying the beauty of the city. With such kind of attitude, never a girl has to think twice before dressing up or going out to some public place. We keep blaming the influence of western culture in India which we think is the cause to all these issues, then why can’t we adopt the good side of it too? If everytime females are expected to compromise and behave accordingly then there is no hope for us and for India too. Instead of blaming cultures, females dressing sense, etc., guys plz think twice before you tend to make the place uncomfortable for girls to breathe in.
Its was very suprising to read comments passed by few people supporting the mobs. Just one week back I had been to Las Vegas, overcrowded with people as usual. Roads filled with crazy people walking with big jars of beers, Mexican pimps selling pictures of pros
with their contact nos. on it and females walking in skimpiest outfits which could make any man go crazy. But to my surprise I did not see any girl being mistreated or molested instead everyone were walking
with so much of ease enjoying the beauty of the city. With such kind of attitude, never a girl has to think twice before dressing up or going out to some public place. We keep blaming the influence of western culture in India which we think is the cause to all these
issues, then why can’t we adopt the good side of it too? If everytime females are expected to compromise and behave accordingly then there is no hope for us and for India too. Instead of blaming cultures,
females dressing sense, etc., guys plz think twice before you tend to make the place uncomfortable for girls to breathe in.
I agree with u RITI
Why would somebody bother to molest, if those ladies in Las Vegas were so actively volunteering themselves?
guys
i don’t know what culture you are talking about, ask your selfs do we go according to it, to best of my ken my culture never said any thing ny ware about dressing neather my religion tought me that no ofsense, grow up guys grow up, condemn that instance, and please dont blame my country for that it is the people who witnessed and culprits to be blamed and punished to max……….
PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN
KILL THEM ALL………….. THESE GUYES DO NOT DESERVE TO WALK ON THE SOIL OF BHARAT ………….
please don’t compare my country with other these things happen every were in this world that dosen’t mean i am supporting these aweful instances i am strong beliver these people should be punished to maxxxxxx with or with out law, but i feel comments should be sensible when made on a county or culture etc, these people doesn’t reflect any country culture etc etc it is that how they are brought up and what sought of thinking they have they are cheap will be losers for life…………..
I think the government should seriously think of baning alcohol…what ever loss it gets to our exchecker it is all worth in saving India’s moral high standard…all women in India should protest…and attain total prohibition in India….
Fuck the bloody asXXXXXX who supported the mobs, writing that women are responsible for these incidents to happen. What the fuck…if men have the liberty to wear what ever they like and enjoi their freedom after dusk, then why not women?..Women in india has all rights to enjoi their own freedom…and these sort of dick head mobs should be severly punished
I was really shocked by seeing few of the comments listed above. The discussion of the problem, commenting on each other, blaming the women or the nation….It is not the thing that is to be done.
As the people of great Nation, atleast we have to try our level best to occlude such incidents.We need to do something that the government Should take such necessary steps in such a way that we will never see a news of this kind in future.
Suchhhhhh a way these senseless guys are to be punished so that it teaches a lesson for each and every one…. so that the rest will not even dare to look at the women passing by.
So all of US have to think a while about what should be done to feel proud of our great Country.
How can we do this?????when are we going to achieve a great nation with no poverty…… no curruption….. a safe place to be lived in….
I sincerely pray for this to happen in no time.
please don’t compare my country with other these things happen every were in this world that dosen’t mean i am supporting these aweful instances i am strong beliver these people should be punished to maxxxxxx with or with out law, but i feel comments should be sensible when made on a county or culture etc, these people doesn’t reflect any country culture etc etc it is that how they are brought up and there thinking…. they will be cheap losers for life…… do you really think alcohol probition will solve the problem……. it is the inner devil punish them to the extent any one thinking of unleashing there devil again should think n times……….
ya I agree …the most immediate step is to ban alcohol…as we baned smoking at public places…some people may get alcohol illegally…but I am sure the extent would be reduced drastically….
THIS IS TO RITI…u said that Men did not mind seeing women in skimpy cloths…this is strange…it means they lost their sensitivity (probly byseeing women like that all the time)
…it is much better the way Indian Men are …being sensitive to slightest exposure…this sustains longterm relationships WITH ONE WOMEN…why do u think in western cultures marriages dont sustain…Men lose sensitivity and always want a new women…so girls please for the sake of society be proper