IIT-Delhi Sacks 12 SC/ST Students, Under Probe (Discussions)
By Novell on Jun 13, 2008 in Discussions, Miscellaneous
The Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, (IIT-Delhi) may be heading for a messy quota controversy. The National Commission for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes has sought an explanation from the director of the institute after 12 undergraduate SC/ST students were asked to leave because of poor performance. The students allege the institute didn’t give them special coaching and is throwing them out because they belong to the quota category. A senior IIT-Delhi official said the commission had the right to question them.
A student has alleged that a professor at the institute told him said he wasn’t doing well in his studies because he was from the SC/ST category. The institute’s deputy director, Prof Bijendra Jain, rejected the allegations and insisted that the students were asked to leave solely because of their poor performance.
Interestingly, the institute has never asked so many students to leave because of poor performance. “Unfortunately, this year the number of students who have been asked to leave because of poor performance is little to large. Generally, the number is five to eight but the total number of students who have been asked to leave is around 20. It is unfortunate that 12 of those 20 students belong to the SC/ST,†said Jain.
The institute had in fact lowered the benchmark for SC/ST students. The 12 students who complain of harassment refused to speak on camera but said they and the 500 other SC/ST students of IIT-Delhi would be forced to take to the streets if the commission fails to help them.
Source: IBNLive
I think they should get undergraduate degrees without going trough college as they have already accepted that they are inferior human beings they have nothing more to live for.
anon | Jun 13, 2008 | Reply
If students get into IIT with reservation, them scoring low is guaranteed. My support would be to IIT Delhi in this case.
Rajesh Kappera | Jun 13, 2008 | Reply
“The students allege the institute didn’t give them special coaching…”
I was shocked by reading this. Come on … It is one of the best schools in the world. “Best” means they don’t give special coaching (it is not intermediate or X grade school). You have to work with your mind and have to put the hardwork to cope with fellow students and develop some interest in research (you are in IIT) and have to prove that you are the same as the rest of the students instead of going to roads. If you are going to the roads means you don’t have the confidence in you. that is your problem . don’t make it as national issue. every institute has right to remove the students. Out of 20 there are 12 means 8 are others…what happens if 10 to 10 ? or otherwise? would it be atleast an issue?
chinna | Jun 14, 2008 | Reply
These SC’s and ST’S should be kicked out of IIT’S.
They are degrading IIT’S.
not | Jun 14, 2008 | Reply
Certainly …I don’t understand why we still have quota system..there are so many people wanting to get in there..all the sc’s and st’s should be thrown out of IIT’s and IIM’s or any other best institute….shame on the 12 students and shame on The National Commission for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes
smitha | Jun 14, 2008 | Reply
I think IIT’s and IIM’s should not have any reservations. Admission should be on the basis of merit. These institutions are India’s pride.
If Govt want to really help the needed, they should provide financial assistance to poor people who really deserve it. Govt should get rid of these reservations. Provide assistance on poverty basis. Shame on these students and shame on these so called National Commission for Scheduled Castes.
Raghuram | Jun 14, 2008 | Reply
Hello All..
It is a fact tht they made into the elite institution only because of quota system.. shame on our govt tht still supports quota system..alrite.. atleast they could have performed well .. inspite of tht they blame tht they were not given special coaching.. do they think IIT as coaching centre of their own.. CBS an popular magazine rated our IIT as powerful as Harvard MIT Princeton together.. let tht equation remain the same.. and dnt bullify this quota related issues..
Kudos to IIT
Sharath Kotha | Jun 15, 2008 | Reply
These people are shame less!!! I worked 16hrs a day to make it through IIT JEE and these fellas get a free ride.And after getting in , still they need a special treatment. Thats insanity and outrage. India is doomed!!! and unless we wipe this quota business for good and encourage merit system, we all heading for big trouble!!!
Sridhar | Jun 15, 2008 | Reply
Hey come on guys..Dont blame on SC/ST students,remember there are 8 other students as well(why dont u ppl not talking abt them(8))!!!
I wonder why ppl dont understand that we have reservation system.Some mother fuckers created caste system so rich people get richer, and poor get poorer.Why do we have lot of up & downs in india…jus coz of caste system..either we shud remove the caste system or we try to
help others(sc& st) who are slow so that they are not left far behind…
Guys shud remember,they are not less scores since they need atleast 94 percentile.they are not really under dogs,who are against reservation are making this issues i guess.
joshi | Jun 16, 2008 | Reply
i think not only in IIT and IIM no wher there should be reservations and scholorships. Scholorships should be given but should be based on their performance and not based on the castes. If a person is very much interested in studies he/she can get scholorships by getting good marks.
I have seen many SC/ST students in my college who get scholrships and enjoy with that money . And they r not bothered about their studies. They dont even need to study much they get jobs easily and promotions easily because they r SC/ST.
this reservation system is the worst system in india which should be removed.
priya | Jun 16, 2008 | Reply
hey guys , i want to give u one advice, this things will never change, if you want to make your life better, go abroad …. Thats only thing we can do.
a | Jun 21, 2008 | Reply
Whoa!!!
After all somebody got the balls to stand up for whats right! you go IIT I mean no offense SC/STs, I dont hate you guys but you dont have any right to get into such an esteemed institution just because of your birth.
Caste system is a bitch, i agree and I do believe your forefathers have gone through a lot because of it. Please do accept my deep apologies but if you wanna milk the cow now for what your yester generations have through, I will stand up against that idea. Caste system was created long ago by same people who started Sati. Funny I dont see anybody practising Sati anymore. Whats up with that? Question yourself, are you fit enough to be in an institution like that. Ruining lives of desering students just becasue you can get a beter paying job – suck at it and furthermore ruin the country’s chance of developent is totally unacceptable. SO pull ya heads off your asses and see the world as it is. Good luck trying
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Dhiraj | Jul 13, 2008 | Reply
hi guys!!
how many of you have studied without electricity up to your school level ?
most of the sc/st students are from poor family ,not a single graduate in their family!!
they struggle hard to complete their school and without the help of coaching institutes they try their best to appear for jee or other competetive exams,most of them are from hindi medium school…
NOW if a student from high society who have not spend a single day without electricity and ac in his life compares
himself with sc/st students in performace then its just shame for him!!
i think that success is not measured by the place where u r at present rather it is measured by difference u have covered to reach that success!!
so u well educated! high society people don’t blame the reservation !
sc/st students r no way less than u ,if u think they r then its just shame on you and ur educated society!!
goodluck!!!
raja | Dec 13, 2008 | Reply
This is all mistake of previes orthodox hindus who break hindus in many castes and so many castes could not get a proper place in society and in today we call them the sc peoples who have a great fun with reservation but they already have been given approximately 3000 to 4000 years of their life if they have reservation on this price then what is the problem for anybody you should give your attention on your studies not on this
Amit | Mar 31, 2009 | Reply
@raja
“how many of you have studied without electricity up to your school level ?”
a)The above problem has nothing to do with someone being an sc or st rather it is about someone being economically POOR(irrespective of caste), so going by your line of argument would you agree if the quota system is modified to accommodate the POOR (open to all economically backward and not exclusively for sc/st)? I sure would….also being from sc/st does not mean that the person is economically backward (at least for the sc)
b)The STs might have a point when the argument is about lack of basic infrastructure or amenities as they tend to come from remote regions but CERTAINLY NOT the SC’s who are from the same cities/towns/villages from where the general guy comes from.
@raja
“most of the sc/st students are from poor family ,not a single graduate in their family!!”
Oh is it! have you ever come across a term called “Creamy Layer” i.e people from sc/st who(or whose parents)have already benefited from the quota system and gone on to become Doctors, Engineers,Managers in PSU’s & Banks etc.(and whose kids are now enjoying ac) . What about them ? How come you are so sure that these expelled students aren’t from that “Creamy Layer”?
Sushil | Aug 19, 2009 | Reply